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Southwark Council will remove tagging/graffiti from your property if you sign a disclaimer. Ring 7525 2000 and ask (though some of the operators are dozy and might not know what you are on about).
Neighbour
SE22, UK -

Ivydale schoolApologies to non-parents but does anyone send their child to this school/know what it's like? The last ofstead report/test results aren't exactly great, but is it a nice place for kids to be?
hetty <hettysouth@aol.com>
UK -

What are you two amerikan dweebs going on about ? Are you trying to promote eye surgery or something? leave us alone on this site & get in with screwing upo the rest of the world
Billy Obnoxious
UK -

Erm....why is everyone concerned about a harmless little mast ? Lets out things into perspective - if you are adult enough to chew down several points of lager & smoke 20 fags in a local bar & finish off the night with a Kebab, then maybe the health risk of a local phone mast isnt the greatest risk to your well being?
Mrs North X Rd
UK -

To concerned residents - I am sure you all are aware that there is no proven relationship between the positioning of a Phone Mast & Ill health. Planning permission would have undoubtably been sought & eventually approved for such a mast, so maybe any opposition should have been organised at the planning stage & maybe you should have been more aware of what was going on in your neighbourhood. I also am assuming that any opponents of such a mast will never use nor posess a mobile phone .......
Mr North Cross Road
UK -

Please welcome our New Neighbour, a Mobile Mast, disguised as a Flag pole. Have you seen that White pole with a gold top. Locals may have noticed that 2 sundays in a row North Cross Road was blocked off by a Crane. No this was not to install Air Conditioning, but rather to Install a mobile Mast. L0CATION, The Uplands. NorthCross Road Thanks to the Antipodean owner, who will recieve Ł3K to Ł5K for the privelage, locals will be exposed to Potentially harmful, Microwave Radiation. So What! you may say, Well, we can expect that the main effect of Microwave , The heating effect will be negligible, but there are other effects, which are yet not fully known. No Planning permission was required, as the unit was lower in height than 15 Metres, how bizarre, and arbitrary. The residents dont even get prior notice, up it goes. Its visible from Crystal Palace Road. north side of North cross Road. Now you know. If he is being subsidised, he hardly needs your custom.
Matthew
UK -

On the night of Tuesday 14 October 2003 a series of events culminated in our local football club being reduced to a laughing stock in a town in Sussex. No credit can be gained from the evening,on or off the field. A late start,compounded by the refusal to get changed to at least show the 324 present,was not good public relations,as those who were seen wandering aimlessly about in their everyday clothes, instead of going directly to the dressing room, to get on with what they were there for, were eventually told by a few frustrated fans. The first goal then came so quick that justice was seen to be done. Incredibly several visiting fans missed this, as wrer still in the clubhouse! Get a grip,please, kick off on time,next time.
Gareth ATKINS <cockleshed@postmaster.co.uk>
UK -

Thought this info from the OFWAT site might be timely. Unplanned interruptions If there is an unplanned interruption to the supply, due to a burst main for example, the company must restore the supply within 12 hours unless the burst or leak is in a "strategic main" in which case the company has up to 48 hours. A "strategic main" is a major water main, which supplies the area. In addition to these guaranteed standards, companies must also, as soon as possible, take all reasonable steps to inform customers: where an alternative supply may be obtained; the time it proposes to restore the supply; a telephone number where the customer can obtain more information. If the supply is not restored within the time(s) given above, domestic customers are entitled to a compensation payment of Ł20 plus a further Ł10 for each 24-hour period the supply remains unrestored. Business customers are entitled to Ł50 plus a further Ł25 for each 24-hour period the supply remains unrestored. Low pressure Customers are entitled to a payment if the company fails to maintain minimum water pressure. This is defined as pressure falling below seven metres static head in the communication pipe. If a customer is affected by low pressure on two occasions, each lasting an hour or more in a period of 28 consecutive days, then the company must pay the customer (or credit to his/her account) the sum of Ł25. Claims must be made in writing within three months of the latest of the two occasions of low pressure. (http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/aptrix/ofwat/publish.nsf/Content/guaranteedstandardsscheme)
David
UK -

EAST DULWICH GRAFFITI FESTIVAL HOAX "London Grafitti festival" and the correctly spelled "London Graffiti festival" that are referred to on the 'organisers' site http://www.edgraffest.faithweb.com draw a blank when put into the search engine Google. So the Shoreditch based festival of 2002 which apparently attracted "over 18,000 artists & visitors" has no record in cyberspace! I think this site has more in common with the recent destructive worm virus of Jeffrey Lee Parson or the library book defacings of 60's playwright, Joe Orton. And we know what happened to them! Peter
Peter
Dulwich, UK -

Dear webmaster - if possible -Please remove the bogus postings for drug testing &the like - it really detracts from the site. Also - given the interest in the Graffiti festival topic ,would it be useful to set up a Separate forumfor this ? thanks
DP
SE22, UK -

I have recently been made aware of the grafitti festival planned for May 2004 on Goose Green. I am appalled & dismayed that this is even been considered by East Dulwich - surely it is time to stop this farce once & for all.We will not tolerate nor welcome ANY so called "street artists" into East Dulwich. This Liberalism will not help eradicate the disease of Tagging. We must ensure that the festival doesnt go ahead. No More tagging in East Dulwich.
P. Daniels
East Dulwich, Se21 UK -

This is being publisised on the Urban 75 Broxton based anarchist/ direct action website - we must halt this before it gets out of hand - we cannot be seen as an easy touch for the freeloading scum& vandals in LOndon - Protest against the festival!
Stop the Grafitti Festival!
UK -

Please visit our site, check for updates & register your support. A new site with email updates & interactive discussions will be online soon. Please support the festival!
http://www.edgraffest.faithweb.com
UK -

I would implore residents to support this project - it will bring East Dulwich into the international artistic arena.An informal Vox pop of local business & potential sponsors have given a broad green light to the festival bid.Please dont be rash about any decision on this - we need to condsier both the Pros & the possible Cons of this festival & I am sure that within tie , We shall be able to reach a consensus within our community. Support the festival!
Jo Miles / Graffest Committee <edgraffest@hotmail.com>
SE22, UK -

hahaha - a grafitti festival in east dullwitch - I cant wait to get involved - its a dream come true !!!!! hahahahaha
Andreas Baader
EDullwich, UK -

Can anyone give me any (genuine)interesting facts about East Dulwich and surrounds.. EG. Did Monty Python really write their scripts in The Clockhouse on Peckham Rye? ta
T <victoriastewart2000@yahoo.com>
London, UK -

I am afraid that I don't think any amount of planning will be able to legislate against the lone 'artists' who will only see a graffiti festival as an encouragement to go mad with the spray can. Please be informed that many people are committed to make sure this graffiti festival does not go ahead, even with well-minded provisos from its would-be organisers.
Anti-tagging
SE22 , UK -

After this weekends steering committee meeting , we can confirm that The bid will be going ahead as described on the home page, but If there is sufficient demand , the festival Bid committee is happy top arrange a meeting with interested parties to discuss this in an informal manner & arrive at a mutually agreeable solution.We are happy to discuss this on an open platform & are sure that the benefits of a festival will outweigh any minor drawbacks & we are willing to demonstrate this if needed. We once agin appreciate your support.
EDGraffest 04 <www.edgraffest.faithweb.com>
East Dulwich, UK -

If the festival is so community-minded, why not get the organisers to clean up the many walls that have been vandalised by non-artists, who think it is artistic to scrawl illegibly in paint and marker pen? If you want to get more people on your side, festival organisers, you should really think seriously about this idea. There will be MANY people who will oppose this festival, me included. Why not try to bridge the gap by doing something positive. FYI, I have already mobilised many people against the festival and look forward to its being denied permission as soon as possible.
anti-tagging
Dulwich , USA -

RE Festival ( see link above ) - I think it will be a good idea for the area - we need to bring the kids on board , not push them to one side & alienate them - good luck with the festival !
Julia P
SE15, UK -

Agree with those who say remove the adverts. It seems to be a new phenomenon. Re graffiti festival. I have already written to Tessa Jowell, and to all three of my ward councillors. I shall be putting up a sign in the library to warn people and encourage them to protest. In the meantime, contact the host of this site getting him to remove the ads. (Go to 'contact' in the list on the left hand side.)
Nigel Doran
SE22, UK -

can the WM sort out this site & stop advertising posting please ?it really spoils everything
erm....
UK -

Like the site , but dont like the adverts in ths talk section - Please get rid of them if possible !!!! regarding the Graffiti festival next year - I am appalled that this is going ahead & we could be subjected to this.I suggest that you contact your local councillor & protest - if we organise , we can stop this farce before it takes off.
Dave M.
East Dulwich, UK -

Good afternoon , This may well be of interest to Lordshiplane readers. I for one am very unhappy about this & will be contacting the organisers & authorities to halt this. I am appalled that this has crept up on us .We do not want nor need this influx of scum into the area. I urge action on this http://www.edgraffest.faithweb.com
Chas. Levin
Dulwich, UK -

Are there any long-term East Dulwich family members who can help me? I'm eager to contact anyone of senior years who may have knowledge of the MOORE FAMILY, who lived at 46 Rodwell Road in the era of 1900 to 1925. My grandfather, JOHN PAYNE MOORE was a Civil Service telegraphist, perhaps employed in the area. He and his wife, GRACE ELLEN JONES, had several children, one of whom was my mother who later, became estranged from her family. She had siblings: DOROTHY, JOHN, REGINALD, and TOM. All would be deceased by now, but I am hoping to turn up some of their grand-children or even great-grands. Perhaps someone from Rodwell Road will have heard mention of my lost relatives and can at least provide me with a clue. I shall be most grateful for even the slightest bit of information on this subject. Thank you all for your time and trouble. Please contact me at ygarry@cogeco.ca
Yvonne Garry <ygarry@cogeco.ca>
Dundas, On Canada -

You have tunbled my game. The cocktails are actually Molotov cocktails, the party is a proletariat shopping party ( otherwise known in the red tops as a "Riot" or "Looting trip" & will be held in Oxford Street. All welcome, bring a bottle .
Andreas Baader
Berlin, DDR -

Has anyone else been stopped by a man on a bycicle who claims to be a BBC Actor and tries to persuade you to come to a 'cocktail party without the cocktails' in Central London to meet other 'interesting people', including a string of well-known celebrities? Presumably it is some kind of scam but I can't think what. I have been stopped by the same man 3 times around Dulwich/Lordship Lane in the last year. I've also seen him talking to other people so I would like to know what is going on (without having to go to the 'cocktail party!') Thanks Jane.
Jane <Jane@twistle.co.uk>
UK -

I like the cut of your jib Mr Doran - keep up the good work
Andreas Baader
Berlin, DDR -

BEAUTIFUL SITE AND VERY INFORMATIVE.
O DAVE <22MUGU@MUGU.COM>
RIO, lome TOGO -

Hello. Can anyone help? I'm trying to find out any info about an Ernest walker and family who ran a garage/workshop at 88 Adys Road just off Goose Green for many years for family history purposes. Anyone remember them? Also, trying to find any info about a George Harris who lived in Montpelier Road in the 1960s.
Mark Hindle <mark.hindle@eadt.,co.uk>
UK -

Mr Baader, you are loathsome and illiterate. Much like the scumbags whose tags you so admire. Why not post your address and have them paint on your walls if you like it so much? I hope other readers of this forum will react more positively to what I wrote.
Nigel Doran
UK -

mr Doran - You really have a beef with tagging dont you ? I call upon all kids to trag more often. This helps the local economy - more tragging = more sales of paint from local shops = more jobs cleaning it up = better for everyone. And it look nice also. C'MON KIDS - TAG ALL OF EAST DULWICH & HELP IT PROSPER !
Andreas baader
UK -

Sick of tagging? Lobby Simon Baxter at Southwark Council (7525 2000). He was recently the focus of a 'Carlton Country' documentary. He's also been in the national and local press, where he has been described as an environment warrior. He seems really switched on, realistic and capable. I approached him and told him about the number of businesses that do nothing to rid themselves of graffiti. I suggested he should ask them to paint over tagging as soon as they see it, even if this means doing it over and over again. Within the past few weeks, I have noticed that John Alan flowers, the Coop pharmacy, the Costcutter and Walsh's have painted over tagging. Barclays has done likewise. It could be a coincidence, but I don't think so. Basically, if you see tagging you don't like, politely ask the owner of the shop to paint it out. It works! I did so with Barclays, and whenever they get tagged, they paint it out really quickly. So go on, just ask! It works. If your house is affected, ring the council on the above number and they will paint it out for you, if you sign a release form.
Nigel Doran <nhdoran@hotmail.com >
London , UK -

hey webmaster - how come you remove "bad" langauge form people who live in E dulwich , yet leave on SPAM posts advertising Golf courses in the USA ? DOH! Surely
Terry V.
UK -

I moved to East Dulwich fairly recently and love the area and the people - I have a question though, anyone know of any garages up for rent????
Will <willwright@lineone.net>
East Dulwich, UK -

At Last! - someone has seen sense - hopefully there will not be any tube for Dulwich / Peckham, as there a few problems with the Bishopsgate goods yard redevelopment.Lets keep our area the way it is - the tube will merely bring chaos & undesireables to the area, as well as increasing house prices. That weve lived without a tuveb for this long proves we dont need it.
J Preen
UK -

Too much litter on and around Lordship lane, it's a disgrace. Fried chicken boxes, shops and residents leaving their plastic bags out for days and then are strewn all over the place by foxes. Get it sorted. What do i pay my rates for? thanks Victor Meldew
Victor <hawgood@bloomberg.net>
UK -

No Tube for East Dulwich: Thanks for your email. I have consulted with colleagues in TfL London Rail for feedback regarding your comments. The decision to operate the extended East London Line to Clapham Junction rather than Wimbledon was taken by the SRA and is part of the proposal for which they submitted a Business Case to Government in September 2002 - approval of which is still awaited. A variety of operational factors related to future services in South London influenced their decision. Nevertheless, Transport for London supports the decision. The Mayor's Transport Strategy included the extension of the East London Line to Clapham Junction on the grounds that this would facilitate much needed local regeneration along the route and foster greater social inclusion. Extending the service to Clapham Junction also helps develop another important part of the Transport Strategy, the Orbirail concept of enhanced rail services along the inner orbital rail network (North, South, East and West London Lines), by increasing the number of services along the South London Line. TfL are anxious to see the current proposal implemented as soon as possible. This proposal is not, however, seen as the end state. TfL is keen to see the further development of National Rail services in London into what the Mayor's Transport Strategy describes as London Metro (of which Orbirail is part) and is currently working with the SRA on developing South London Metro services. TfL will be working to bring improved rail services and other improved public transport services to areas of London currently relatively poorly served. Regards, Matt Bland Transport for London
Mr Thomas
UK -

Totally agree - This lot have caused us a world of problems & we are all sufering. Though I would never usually do this I will be focusing my shopping at Sainsburys or smaller shops in peckahm & nunhead now. we cant let them get away wth this any longer - they are ruining our area because of thwir urge for ŁŁŁŁŁŁ. Get organised & shut them down
Concened of East Dulwich <dianas_butler@hotmail.com>
UK -

Its rubbish.
PP
UK -

A very strange story regarding Thomas Carlton School can be found at: http://www.network54.com/Forum/198833 It is entitled 'punishment out side of school'(sic) Can anyone confirm the veracity thereof?
Nutfield Road Resident
Slums of East Dulwich, UK -

The shopkeepers are laughing at you all.......do something constructive - hit them where it hurts - boycott their shops!
Ditto
UK -

Just want to thank everyone who supported the local shopkeepers in their campaign to keep traffic & parking control measures to a minimum. Im sure we have all noticed the difference since the revisions. - More traffic , Slower Buses & Increased pollution. Im sure our children will thank us later in life for what we have achieved here.I for one am quite pleased that The buses are unable to negotiate the lane on a saturday , as well as the pleasure I get from trying to get across the road throught the badly parked cars outside Safeway, whilst gasping for breath through the fumes of a hundred car engines on tickover. They is something we can do to remedy this however. Boycott the small shopkeepers... drive them out of business - do we really need to pay Ł4 for a loaf of bread ? Lets take the Lane back into the hands of the people who live there. Hound these parasites out. Drive them into bankrupcy. Surely the health & safety of your children is more important than a shopkeepers right to profit? Lets take the Lane back & make it safe for the people who live there PUSH THEM INTO BANKRUPCY!
Andreas Baader
ED, UK -

Wonderful site
willsam911@yahoo.com>
USA, none UK -

Just wanted to say how happy i am to have moved out of Dulwich...i used to live in friern road but now live outside of london. i'm now 17 and it's such a shame things haven't changed, i know exactly what it's like...our flat got burgled so many times and i have some odd tales from "Goodrich" school, one of which was that i got into a fight with some delinquent kid because he gave oral pleasures to my girlfriend, and this is when we were about 5/6...it's sick and wrong, but stuff like that always happened in goodrich, how i hope things have changed there. anyway...i wish all you residents good luck for the future and hope things get better.
c
UK -

"attcked by a woman with a child" - I hope the child wasnt too seiously hurt .Its not right using a toddler as a weapon. Something should be done. Seriously , there a couple of resident nutters around , the best one living in Ash****ne grove - top quality violent psyco drug addled harridan. Unfort. ,they dont care & have no concept of right & wrong. I think you have just been really unlucky. London can be a shiity place & even toffs in Chelsea get nobbled at some point. stick with it - its really an OK place
keef
UK -

Dear Anne, Why don't you move down to Nutfield Road, or 'Nutter' as we residents call it. Anti-social acts are not tolerated and anyone who transgresses is caned.
Nutfield Road Resident
Slums of East Dulwich, UK -

Warning: Theft and Violence Friern Road/Lordship Lane: Mid December 2002 my car was broken into, contents stolen, attempted theft with so much damage insurance would not repair. While attempting to sort out the missing contents of the car on the Sunday morning, 9am I was attacked by a woman with a child. The woman demanded my car keys and swung at me with a bottle. No person called the police, stopped their car etc, even though I was calling for help and the woman's child was screaming. Just 2 days previously my wallet was pickpocketed at the bus stop by Upland Road.
Anne
East Dulwich, UK -

I'm with you on this one, Keefer! Anyone who drives from Melbourne Grove to Sainsbury's ought to be caned.
Nutfield Road Resident
Slums of East Dulwich, UK -

Mother from Melbourne Grove - what are you doing driving to Sainsburys anyway ? WALK THE 200 METRES RATHER THAN DRIVE NEXT TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!
Keef
UK -

Hey I really like your site. I have found some of the information here helpfull. Thanks :)
Joe D.

Joe <j_dirt@hotmail.com>
Memphis, TN US -

As a mother of two young children of course I use the special parking bays at Sainsburys. Being oversized, they make putting kids into car seats much easier. But why are they so close to the entrance of the store? Why should we not walk just as far as everyone else? Move them to the other end of the car park and see how many of us Mums manage with the usual bays (like all the other parents before us). By the way, it would be useful if these comments were dated - a lot of people refer to timescales or months - but who knows which year?
Melbourne Grove Resident
UK -

If you are at all concerned about litter and tagging, please call 7525 2000 and voice your concerns. You can request street cleaning here and also ask for litter bins to be provided. I find it scandalous that there are hardly any bins on the roads off Lordship Lane. Goodrich has only one, about 1/3 of the way down. There is none near the school, whose children make an awful mess. Unless you lobby, things stay the same, so please put pressure on the council by ringing the environment number (above) and getting them to do things to improve the area.
Nigel Doran <nhdoran@hotmail.com>
London , UK -

Dear Kiether, I haven't laughed so much since 1997. Keep posting!
Nutfield Road Resident
Slums of East Dulwich, UK -

J - Kieth has a valid point - if there werent so many aggresive kids around , kicking off all the time , the area would be better for everyone. Teaching kids to fight doesnt do any good & often does harm. Keef
UK -

It’s comforting to know that there is an academic around in Dulwich to correct others typing errors. What would Britain do without such back bone as Kieth?
J. Cornor
UK -

Oops - "Acheive" should be "Achieve" Apologies
Kieth
UK -

Why not give him a few Spelling lessons also - maybe if he could spell "chance" rather than "chanse" he may acheive something more in life than being able to bash people after closing time. Just a thought
Keith
UK -

Hi, prior to marriage my name was pamela street and lived in Surrey Road Peckham Rye.S.E.15 Interested in hearing from anyone who lived in that area from 1940-1965 period. I'm Ian and I'd like to hear from anyone that new me when I lived in East Dulwich Road above the chemist shop (Fosters) my father was the chemist there, the years would be from 1945-1958. I went to Grove Vale School/Addys Road then on to Choumert Road leaving 1951. I especially would like to hear from two girls from my time at Grove Vale named Doreen Whiffen and her friend Barbara(?) I think Barbara lived down Rye Lane way. The Headmisstress in Grove Vale was a Miss Willkie.Hope this jogs a few memories from someone . Ian & Pam.
ian & pamela cameron <ian @clephane-cameron.fsnet.co.uk>
hastings, e.sx UK -

Just stumbled across this site. Pretty good - ED certainly deserves a forum. Ian
IanP <ipaveley@armit.co.uk>
East Dulwich, UK -

Hi, I'm moving in to Nunhead (Ivydale road) with my partner and two year old after Christmas and don't know anyone over there! I'm looking for a good local childminder - does anyone have any recommendations? Or know any local parent chatsites etc? All contributions gratefully received
Hetty <nowdontaskagain@aol.com>
London, UK -

Great job!!!
Cynthia Lasik
Portland, OR US -

Hi there. Just wanted to say I like what you did with your site. You did a great job.
Teresa James <teresa_james36@hotmail.com>
Las Vegas, NV US -

Litter - please could people in East Dulwich remember to use the litter bins. Don't drop take-away wrappers on the street. And if we all took the time to clean the area outside our own house/business, the place would be a lot nicer. Thanks
Karen
UK -

Hi! I'm Ian. You have a nice and useful website. I find your site while searching for related sites and It's a pleasure to sign your guestbook. Thanks!
<harrison_ian@yahoo.com>
none, none USA -

Ken S - your comments on Mr Thomas are offensive and totally unnecessary. For generations mothers/fathers/nannies etc have managed to shop perfectly well without the need for special parking bays. Whilst I will always be polite and helpful to those I feel to be in need of assistance I will not have MY behaviour towards parents/children dictated by a Supermarket.
Katy D.
East Dulwich, UK -

Hello! Thank you for letting me sign your guestbook and thank you for your website. Glad you are here.
Amy
San Diego, CA US -

Hi Everybody. Wish I did your graphics. Great work.
beatrice_tran@hotmail.com.
Beatrice
Cleveland, Ohio US -

I am looking for a flat to rent in East Dulwich on a month by month basis. My partner and I are in the process of buying a property, but have to leave our current flat in the last week in August 2002. Therefore we need somewhere to live until the purchase of our new flat has been completed. This could be a couple of months, or it may take longer. Basically - we don't want to go through an estate agent and get tied in to a 6 month contract as hopefully, buying our new place will go through smoothly and quickly (fingers crossed!) Any ideas would be appreciated.
Helen <hmljackson@hotmail.com>
East Dulwich, UK -

thanks NICHONETTE for the info on the goodrich road school.
serena <serenakowal@hotmail.com>
bexhill on sea, sussex UK -

Yes, it was renamed Thomas Carlton. Have a look at the Friends Reunited site, and don't miss our super new forum which is mentioned below.
Nichonette
Peckham, UK -

HELLO EVERYONE i was wondering if any of you could please tell me if you have heard of a Goodrich road school. im doing some family tracing and i have just found out that my nan went to this school......please please any info would help as im desperate to find my family: surname GWYNN
serena <serenakowal@hotmail.com>
bexhill on sea, e/sussex UK -

Can anyone tell me the latest with regards to the proposed new train links to East Dulwich? Ext. of East London line?
Nick Beresford <beresford.nj@pg.com>
East Dulwich, UK -

Ref 'newmum's complaint about people parking in mother/child bays'. From my own point of view there are a disproportionately large number of bays, especially when one takes in to account that many of us are often unable to park full stop! Stop being disapproving of others and look at what you can do to improve the situation. Perhaps leaving junior with at home mum or dad would be an option. It is certainly not uncommon to see a husband wife and child in the supermarket, is it really necessary to turn a trip to the shops into a family outing? It may be fun for you to park your trendy three wheel baby buggy in the middle of the aisle and show Tarquin or Amelia off to the world, but it irritates me.
Mr Thomas
East Dulwich, UK -

re 'Macca's response to 'happy mother' Supermarkets do nothing about it, because they aren't really that interested. The bays show their 'concern' for mothers and work well as a public relations exercise. I park without the kids occasionally and am certainly not abusive. I agree with 'happy mother'. A fertile womb does not make you a better person, a willingness to prioritise what is really important does. Venting spleens in car parks and pompous assertions of selfishness do not. So someone ignored the sign - walk the extra 10 yards and well, 'get over it'. Best wishes, oldmum
oldmum
se22, -

My name is Edmund Marco and it's a pleasure to sign your guest book.
Edmund
London, Kent England -

I am a Parapsychologist, and I am carrying out a research on paranormal occurrences in the East Dulwich area for a book on local history to be published later in the year. I am looking for account from local residences, who are or have been recently troubled by activity they can not explain, and wish to convey their account for research or just to share with others. If you have no problem with your account benign entered in the publication, I promise your identity to be kept by us in complete confidences. Thank you for your support Simon
Simon <Dulwichreasearch@aol.com>
East Dulwich, UK -

Ref Newmum's complaint and Happy Mother's reply:- Newmum is quite right - people who park in the mother and baby parking spaces when they do not have children with them are selfish. I expect supermarkets do little about the problem as such people are the sort who are likely to become abusive when challenged. We all enter supermarket car parks on an implied licence from the supermarket. This licence is clearly modified by the obvious signs indicating mother and baby spaces - i.e park elsewhere if you don't have a baby. If the supermarket affords a privilege to mothers, so be it.All the best, Macca.
Macca
SE22, UK -

Can any one tell me what the white plastic things attached to all the trees in East Dulwich are for? Thanks
kat <katherinejmclean@yahoo.com>
UK -

Until twenty five years ago corporal punishment was widely used throughout South London schools. Those who have retained their interest will certainly enjoy a new forum which can be found at: http://www.network54.com/Forum/198833
Nichonette
Peckham, UK -

Ref 'newmum's complaint about people parking in mother/child bays. Being a new mum is an incredibly exciting time which envelops your entire existence. I emphasis 'your'. Namely, your choice to have a baby, your choice to drive, your choice to shop, your responsibility to weigh up the balance of whether you can continue activities with the same ease as you did when you were childless. Some people have minor disabilities which don't qualify for an orange label. Some people are incredibly fat. Some people carry very large bags with them wherever they go. Some people are just plain lazy. These are their choices. They manage. They adapt. I strongly recommend you do the same or you're in for a very miserable time. A fertile womb does not qualify the bearer to special priviledges in the world. The courtesy, when extended, is always welcome but it is not a 'right'. (By the way, this stands in law - it's why you can't be issued a ticket for parking 'without children'). I am always pleased for new mums' joy but please, please bear in mind that no one else on earth, bar perhaps your family, is as pleased as you are. It's your choice - you need work around it. The rest of the world doesn't need to work around you. Good luck - believe me parking space is really the very least of your worries. From, Happy Mother (& driver)of 3.
happy mother (& driver) of 3 <nonnon80@hotmail.com>
UK -

Best wishes to the team at Lordship Lane!
Steve <steve@stevefrench.co.uk>
London, UK -

If you are angered by tagging being sprayed on walls in the area, please contact Southwark council's special 'Grotspot' hotline via the main reception. If the graffiti is on a business property, please get in touch with the manager and ask them, politely, to remove it, explaining that they have a legal obligation to keep their property in a respectable manner. Barclays had awful tagging on its walls. I contacted them via the head office and within a few days, it was gone. Likewise, the council will remove it from your private property, if you sign a disclaimer form. Perhaps the owners of the Munchbox, Costcutters and the shops that sell glass and electric light fittings etc. could keep a spare tin of paint handy to cover up the ugly tagging. Why not, again politely, ask them to remove it. If a few people do it, they'll perhaps do something about it. The main thrust of this is: DO IT YOURSELF. If you are sick of there being rubbish, graffiti, then don't just moan. Pick up the phone and get some action. It is easy, and sometimes surprisingly effective. I contacted the council and got them to do something about tagging on houses near to where I live on Goodrich Road. I am SURE that if more people bothered to pick up the phone and tell the council that they are dissatisfied then more would happen. Tagging is ugly. It makes the place look uncared for, which in turn makes people nervy and which also makes yobs and street kids think they can do what they like. Contact GILL DAVIES at Chiltern House. Tell her I sent you and she might just get the message that people want more action. .
Nigel Doran <nigeldoran@hotmail.com >
E Dulwich, UK -

SURELY, this can't be true. I've heard that there are plans to put a waste incinerator on the Greendale site, now that the plans for a store and stadium have been rejected.
Simon
UK -

Is anyone else fed up with people parking in the mother and baby parking spaces when they do not have children with them?
New mum <newmum@excite.co.uk>
UK -

Congratulations to those who led the campaign against the building of Homebase on Dog Kennel Hill. I just hope it's not your kids who fall foul of the paedophile/drugs ring that operates on Greendale (what, didn't know ?) Hmmm, wonder who that's led by. Also hope that none of your kids go to the Charter school or you just might have to explain that it's down to you that they can't have any sports facilities. If you think Southwark Council will turn it into a usable area, you're living in cloud-cuckoo land. Next time you're down there, careful not to step on the syringes. Still p'raps the travellers will find it. Nice to have new neighbours. I HOPE YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE !!!!
David
UK -

The existence of DHFC depends on the building of the DIY store on Dog Kennel Hill because the site is owned by Kings College Hospital and they are going to raise the lease on its expiry, so the football club would be unable to afford to stay. The developers of the site have offered to buy the site, build a new stadium and give the freehold to the football club. The only way they will survive. The question remains about the ulterior motives of those who oppose the development for the community of wasteland.
Andy
UK -

I'm sure Nick Turpin's right about the youth project. I just wish people attending meetings, etc., at the centre would be more considerate about where they park their cars. It would be even better if Southwark Council were more proactive about removing dumped untaxed cars that appear on a regular basis in Darrell Road.
Jennifer Smith <info@pinkstring.co.uk>
East Dulwich, UK -

After nearly 18 months of fundraising and organisation the Postbox Project Youth Club will open in April this year at the Alleyn Community Center in Darrell Rd. The project was started by local residents and supported by Southwark Youth services in order to provide somewhere for young people to go two nights a week. Those of you who live or have businesses around Lordship Lane will be aware of past problems with Vandalism, Graffiti and Petty Crime, it is hoped that all will benefit from the presence of a bit of local youth provision. All the members of the Postbox committee are volunteers so if you think you could help please visit the website at www.postboxproject.org for more details, we need a Music System, Pool Tables, Table Tennis Tables and Computers. Your money or time would also be welcome. Thankyou
Nick Turpin <info@postboxproject.org>
East Dulwich, UK -

I'm new to the area and would like to know if anyone can recommend: 1) a good builder as I have some minor frost damage to the front bay of my property; 2) a good dentist - one that's not a butcher or a preacher! thanks
Jason <jason.stuart@talk21.com>
East Dulwich, GB -

Hi moved to East Dulwich a few months ago- very nice it is too- and have realised that unless I visit a dentist soon, I will be keeping my mouth in a glass by the bed. Very scared by the thought since a Texas Drill Massacre character 'treated' me a few years ago. Please can anyone advise? Where can I find a local (pref NHS please) skillful and non-preachy dentist?
Catherine Hine <catherinehine@hotmail.com>
London, London UK -

Hello, My name is Sirpa and I am a student at London Guildhall University. We have been researching the bath and washhouses of East London for the past term under Oral History module. As we have found a lot of interesting information and people we have decided to make a documentary based on it. We are currently in a process of writing the script and looking for locations which is why I am contacting you. We were wondering if there is a preserved or reconstructed house in London from the late 19th century or early 20th century, which we could have a look at and possibly film at. We would be very grateful if you could find time to reply to us. Many thanks and seasonal greetings.
Sirpa Luosa <sirpaluosa@hotmail.com>
UK -

Hi Could anyone recommend a good plumber and plasterer that works in East Dulwich. Have been let down so many times I'm getting really desperate. My email is alisonhughes1@hotmail.com Many thanks Alison
Alison Hughes <alisonhughes1@hotmail.com>
East Dulwich, UK -

East Dulwich bus lanes? Look, Peckham is getting the whole of Rye Lane shut to through traffic except for busses, and everyone thinks this is GREAT! Quit moaning. There is more to life than driving your car. Use the bus to do your shopping on Lordship Lane, or get a bike. At the moment Lordship Lane is jammed up with ugly parked cars anyway. Not all of those cars are fuelling the shops profits. Where is the petition FOR the bus lanes?
dunx <d_drury@hotmail.com>
Peckham, UK -

bottom !
jack smith ( age 4 )
UK -

Hi. I am planning to let my flat (in SE22) next year while I go off travelling for 12 months. I was wondering whether anyone had any experience of letting their home through one of the letting agencies in East Dulwich? Are there any you would recommend, or any I shouldn't touch with a barge pole? A personal recommendation would really help, as I am a little bit nervous about just choosing one without any prior knowledge. Forewarned is forearmed! Thanks v much.
Elizabeth <eastdulwichresident@hotmail.com>
London, UK -

As a car owner myself, I must say that one of the most OBNOXIOUS things about living in London is having to suffer the roads being constricted and clogged up by buses and bus lanes - quite seriously. It really annoys me to see these people who pay NO road tax and who are in many cases getting a free ride off the backs of the council tax payers as well making travelling so difficult for the rest of us. I suppose that a city as collectively stupid as to vote for Ken Livingston - for Christ's sake - as Mayor can't really be expected to do any better. That's what socialism is all about isn't it - buying votes with welfare handouts and freebies, using the taxes of people who - in the main - would never dream of voting for socialist lowlife local politicians. Give London's roads back to the the people who pay for them. James
James
East Dulwich, UK -

Yes - we need forward thinking for a change.
Anne
UK -

Well said - you selfish car drivers make life difficult for everyone else in the area - if you want to use your car for every little journey , then go and live in Wales or Shropshire , at least you will have no choice but to use it , seeing as there are no loner any local bus services in those areas. You will also be more at home , seeing as you will be surrounded by bleating moaning farming scum , who are as selfish & narrow minded as yourselves.
Rick
Peckham, UK -

Sort your lives out - stop being so selfish - not everyone has the use of a car - The petition is being orchestrated by the traders , who have been royally ripping people off for years - think of the enviromment & the quality of life of everyone else in the area. Not everyone has a car . Use your bike or get a bus - the Bus lanes for Lordship lane will make the ara more accesible to more people & not a bunch of snotty narrow minded manipulative scum like the shopkeepers.Everyone bangs on about better public transport in London - then do something about it & support the bus lane proposal
Jimbo <Captain@totalise.co.uk>
ED, UK -

Anyone remember St. John's School on the corner of Archdale and North Cross Roads, and that wonderful teacher Mrs. Harvey?
Ex East Dulwich Person
UK -

East Dulwich is the first place in London that I have ever felt at home, I know my neighbours and use the local shops, it still has a community which I think is centered around the Lordship Lane shops and services. I am extremely concerned that all that I love about the neighbourhood is going to vanish very quickly following the introduction of the Busplus scheme which will involve all sorts of nonsense down Lordship lane including Bus lanes and parking restrictions. East Dulwich is a community first and a through route for buses second, it is pointless to destroy one to get the other. Mail your objections to: route185@wsatkins.com or our MP at jowellt@parliament.uk
Nick Turpin <nick@turpin-online.ukf.net>
East Dulwich, UK -

Hello, I've been a resident of East Dulwich since the summer of 1995, though I still don't really know Lordship Lane very well - to be honest I always go out, and shop in the West End, with the exception of supermarket shopping for which I use the Sainsburys at Dog Kennel Hill. Although I did try that Mexican restaurant place once when a friend and I wanted to eat out late one night and couldn't be bothered to go over to Regent Street or Notting Hill. Anyway I'd like to express support for the idea to build a Homebase here - would be very handy indeed. But why does the existence of the football club (apparently, as far as I can understand from other messages here) depend on this?
Slim
Dulwich, UK -

Southwark Council and the new busplus initiative, plan to turn Lordship Lane into a ghost town. Plans to make enormous bus lanes either side of Lordship Lane, will finally see an end to local traders and all those wonderful shops you all love so much. There is a petition going around at the moment, but we only have a short time to oppose it. There are copies of the petition in the shops at the top end of Lordship Lane near the Library (Costcutters, Big Ms etc.). Please sign it and keep Lordship Lane the wonderful place that it has now become.
Caroline <caroline.it@ukgateway.net>
UK -

I have moved to the area within the last 3 months and we are very happy here. Unfortunately, my DIY skills are not quite yet up to scratch and was wondering if anybody could reccommend a good local plumber and electrician. I would also like reccommendation of local household cleaners. Finally, our house is of the usuall 'Yellow Brick', but is somewhat dirty and we would like it restoring. Does anybody who have previously had this work carried out, still have the contact details of the firm who did it. Thanks, and keep this excellent site going. Could anybody please reccommend any of the following in the East Dulwich area. A household cleaner, plumber and electrician. Also,I own a house here and am
Matt Bennett <Matthew.R.Bennett@accenture.com>
London, UK -

Following a posse of cowboys leaving their spurs at my door, doing bodge jobs, charging criminal rates, then riding off, laughing, into the sunset and straight to the next poor sucker, I am desperate to find a competent and reasonable plasterer to do some small areas in my flat. I also need a ditto painter and decorator. The only way to do it is, I have realised, through recommendation. If anyone in East Dulwich has actually been satisfied by plastering/decorating work done in their homes – and at fair rates – I would love to be given names and numbers I can contact. Anne Reckless (annreckless@hotmail.com)
anne reckless <annreckless@hotmail.com>
UK -

Dear resident - you are ill mannered & offensive . Dont bother accessing this site again , as you wiill not be welcome . We are quite happy in East Dulwich with the way we are . if you are so bothered about the state of the poor , then do something about it - the vast majority of East Dulwich resident dont give a toss - and quite rightly so. their manor , their problem.
Jim Bob
SE London, UK -

Hi - as usual, we have a "local" site that seems to have been taken over by a determined group of NIMBY , selfish self obsessed middle classes. Everyone uses Homebases or B&Q , but no-one wants it near their house do they ? - its best to put it somewhere eslse ,where the locals may not be as vocal or as priveliged enough to mount a blinkered campaign against it.South London has some of the worst areas in the UK - some of the most poverty stricken & deprived neighbourhoods in London - but this site seems more concerned with preserving your own smug little world. When was the last time you lot went ourside you twee little area on foot , without your twee little centrally locked french car ? do you support & send your children to the local comp ? when was the last time you actively participated in something that benefited the community as a whole & didnt involve some personal motivation ? Its easy to live somewhere & use its postcode & sing the praises of that area , its harder to be part of that community & actually contribute something.
Resident
E.Dulwich, UK -

RE: Getting to work! I've just been reading the comments made about the traffic through east dulwich in the mornings, the school rush and getting to work in general. I've lived on lordship lane for 2 years now and until christmas 2000 the traffic was also getting to me, until I fixed my bike. I work just off oxford street, so my usual route was the 40/176 to elephant and a tube to oxford circus, which sometimes took me an hour and 15 minutes. Now that I cycle, I can get door to door in 45 minutes (40 mins in school holidays). My route goes past north dulwich train station, up red post hill, through loughborough junction to brixton road. From brixton road to town there are bus/cycle lanes all the way. I now get longer in bed, save money, get regular excercise and help the environment. The only downside being my lack of a social life, but the bike quickly gets left at home or work if there's a chance of a few cheeky beers. So don't spend your mornings falling asleep on the shoulder of a stranger on the 176, or waiting for mothers to find 2nd gear in there MASSIVE toyota landcruisers - GET ON YER BIKE!! Mark
Mark
East Dulwich, -

David and Sue How is your tube campaign going? Regards Alison
Alison Hughes <alisonhughes1@hotmail.com>
East Dulwich, UK -

Hi Just to let you know that the East Dulwich Education Network (EDEN) has been formed by parents of children in East Dulwich primary schools who want a secondary school for East Dulwich and Nunhead children as these children are not in the catchment area of the Charter school. At the moment we are gathering together a list of parents that would send their children to a good East Dulwich secondary school. If you are interested in details please email me. Alison alisonhughes1@hotmail.com
Alison Hughes <alisonhughes1@hotmail.com>
East Dulwich, UK -

I was interested about Robert Peters' comments about the Magdala Pub on Lordship Lane as I live in Pellatt Road just around the corner and pass it every day . The swinging pub sign is very interesting and I should think very old . It depicts the siege of Magadala (a place in Ethiopia) during the British colonial wars there and shows 'hordes' of African warriors being vanquished by the pith-helmeted British soldiers .It is quite a brutal scene and graphically depicted and very much out of place (thank goodness) in our more enlightened age . Have a look next time you're passing .
Bob Walker <bob.walker@daemon.net>
East Dulwich, UK -

What an excellent site , I've only just discovered it but I'll be definately coming back again . I've lived in se22 now for 12 years and have seen a lot of changes in that time , mostly for the good .Some not so good (I've still to make up my mind about Sainsburies !). One thing that my friends and I find so wonderful about the 'Lane' is the great pubs and restaurants there now are . You don't have to go into town to have a good night out . I discovered that a new Thai restaurant opened at the Magadala pub on Saturday night and being adventorous I though I'd give it a try . Downstairs it's a scruffy unimproved S.London boozer , but up the stairs is a drop dead gorgeous restaurant ! I couldn't believe it , and the food was great and cheap to . I think the Thai Corner cafe (my previous favorite has got some competition at last !).
Robert Peters <r.peters@hotmail.com>
East Dulwich , UK -

Phew! Adam, I am still reeling from your vituperative comments. I am not sure how you going to University comes into the discussion, but well done anyway!!! However, I do still think that the extended pavements will cause traffic chaos, irrespective of 'school runners' - you only have to see what happens in Barry Road when a bus stops and the traffic is held up! Let me know which bus route you take in the mornings, and I will try to avoid it with my ENORMOUS CAR. Only joking!
Caroline
East Dulwich, UK -

Sue, my partner, and I intend to launch a campaign to speed the arrival of the Tube in East Dulwich. This project has been "just around the corner" since the early 1990s. Keith Hill, the transport minister for London and MP for Streatham, told me more than a year ago that the Tube was definitely going to happen. The silence has been deafening. I regularly phone the East London Line Extension office and am assured that things are happening, but slowly. With a General Election a few weeks away, I think it is time we all put serious pressure on our MP Tessa Jowell to get involved in a far more visible way. Please feel free to contact me with your ideas for getting organised – and getting militant about this matter. SE London has been the transport poor relation for long enough. We deserve nothing but the best and we must standf up and demand it. With votes at stake, our voice will be heard.
david hardy <hardy@clara.co.uk>
E Dulwich, UK -

I'm sorry when I saw the post below I had to reply No, I don't agree with you Caroline. As someone who has no choice but to take public transport, I think that the new pavements will be good. It will stop idiots that park at bus stops and will help disabled people get onto buses. As for parents taking kids to school, I feel things in this area are now becomming a joke. I am only 21, but when I was at primary school i walked, when I was at secondary school i got the bus (in fact two buses, because there was no direct bus!). I turned out OK and am now at university. What irratates me even more is the size of the cars, and how parents feel they have the right to stop where they please when dropping off their kids. Are you listing parents of that school that is practically directly outside West Dulwich Station?!!!...in addition to having buses that stop right outside!! Basically, it is just lazyness, and it is not on. Instead of protesting against pavements, why not put your energy into arguing for the introduction of school buses, instead of selfishly stating (how u must take your kids to school by car!) Don't get me wrong Caroline, this isn't a personal attack on you, I just want people to know how bad it for people stuck behind 'school runners'.
Adam
East Dulwich, UK -

In response to Liz's two e-mails, I would just like to say: 1. I live on Lordship Lane, and for me it is vital to be able to park outside my front door. I have a back condition and also 2 small children, so I need to be able to park in front of my house. Otherwise carrying heavy shopping and shopping is a nightmare. 2. I am one of people who has to take my children to school by car. It is a necessity because there is no bus to the school and I have to get to work afterwards. There are two sides to every story! Incidentally, the proposed traffic route changes to Lordship Lane which will include a concrete pavement extended out from each bus stop, will in fact increase the traffic because when a bus stops at a stop no car will be able to overtake. This will cause even more chaos. I have voiced my opposition to this proposal. Does anyone else feel the same?
Caroline <caroline.it@ukgateway.net>
London, UK -

I meant to say people taking their kids to school in cars (nor work). I have work on the brain, obviously!
Liz
UK -

This is a great forum for discussion - there are 7 people in my office who live in East Dulwich (office based in Cov Gdn) - I will pass on the details of the site. I for one am fed up with the nightmare traffic scenario every morning between 8.30 and 9am on Lordship Lane. Cars and vans should not be allowed to park on L.Lane, so that cars can form two lines of traffic up to the Goose Green roundabout, as opposed to just one. Taking the bus to work is becoming a real pain. I blame people taking their kids to work in cars - in the summer hols taking the bus is a breeze!
Liz
UK -

Does anyone know Mervin Channer of East Dulwich? I have been looking for him for quite a few years now. Perhaps he pops into the East Dulwich Tavern which I believe would be the pub closest to his last known flat on Quorn Rd. Thanks...Clair
Clair <Clair704@cs.com>
UK -

Does anybody know Mervin Channer of East Dulwich...I have been looking for him for years. Perhaps he pops into the East Dulwich Tavern which I have spotted on this site. Thanks...Clair
Clair <Clair704@cs.com>
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Hi Can anyone let me know what is happening with the East London Line extension. I have been in contact with someone in Hackney Council who says it is going ahead but was not sure if it was going to East Dulwich. Any info would be appreciated. Many thanks. Alison
Alison Hughes <alisonhughes1@hotmail.com>
East Dulwich, UK -

Is anyone else getting really hacked off with the rushhour train service from East Dulwich station? I put the following to Connex via their website this afternoon. Will post their reponse when (if) it arrives. Any ideas about what we could do? Here's a brief summary of my farcical journey into work this morning. Timings may not be 100% accurate but they are reasonable enough. I'd appreciate your comments. This is NOT an irregular occurence. In addition, the announcements are patronising (a delay caused by "the late arrival of an incoming train" is a facile excuse) - the computer one that starts "I am sorry to announce" is particularly irritating. A computer cannot apologise. The signage on the stations (i.e. those meant to tell you which station you're at) between London Bridge and East Dulwich is appalling. There are not enough of them and they are poorly positioned and lit. I won't even start about the unacceptability of the frequency of the scheduled rush-hour service from East Dulwich. 08:50 Announcement that 08:56 delayed by 29 mins Various announcements that 8:56 delayed by various lengths of time 09:10 Train goes through station (couldn't it have stopped?) Various announcements that 09:16 delayed - no time specified 09:10 Announcement that 08:56 cancelled 09:15 Announcement of arrival of 09:16 09:16 Near empty train sails through without stopping 09:17 Announcement that 09:16 is delayed by 11 minutes 09:19 Announcement that 09:16 consists of 2 coaches only 09:26 09:16 turns up - 2 coaches obviously packed - platform already heaving 09:32 09:26 turns up - seats available
David McIldatrick
London, UK -

East Dulwich is getting dirtier. Our streets are strewn with litter and, in Crystal Palace Road for one, dumpedf furniture and other garbage. I cannot understand the mentality of low-life who believe that loading up the car with old mattresses and leaky car batteries and then going to another street before dumping them on the pavement. I also cannot understand why it takes two or even three phone calls before our incompetent and apathetic council deigns to send someone round to clear it all up. Perhaps as we still have more than a year to the next council election therre is not yet enough incentive to keep happy the few of us who bother to vote.
david hardy
east dulwich, UK -

Dear lordshiplane A couple of years ago there was a plan to improve the baths with lottery money, which was turned down, (wrongly I think), since then Southwark has done nothing for this potentially great area, there is inadequate heating, it is run down, it is understaffed, only the cold resistant diehards will use the baths, surely these things are supposed to be a pleasure? The place could be wonderful, we should campaign for our baths to be updated; this is a facility which is being overlooked at the great East Dulwichian loss. sue hillwood-harris
sue hillwood-harris
east dulwich, UK -

Re: Homebase/Dulwich Hamlet FC In the "News" section of this site the major items,taken from the Peckham Society and East Dulwich Society News, are from 1999 and not 2000. The October dates (minus the year) are misleading.
jackmcinroy
UK -

Just want to tell you about a free gardening demonstration which will be taking place at the Alleyn Community Centre Darrell Road, SE 22 (next to the Dulwich Medical Centre) on Saturday 28th October 11 -1 pm. This is part of the 'Blooming BARA' Project funded by Southwark Council. BARA (Barry Area Residents' Association) invites all residents living in the BARA area (boundaries Friern Road, Landells Rd,Upland Rd and Lordship Lane)to a demonstration on 'Winter Gardening' with Christine of Park Rangers Service. Other local residents also welcome, but will not be eligible for free plants etc. Refreshments and Ploughman's Lunch free to all participants. Janet (BARA)Chairperson.
JANET COY <Kathryn9@btinternet.com>
east dulwich, UK -

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO INFORM YOU THAT ON YOUR MAP OF THE GOOSE GREEN AREA. TINTAGEL CRESCENT HAS BEEN NAMED AS TINTAGEL ROAD AND IS INCORRECT.
amanda roberts <mandandmatt@hotmail.com>
london, UK -

I do not support the Dulwich Hamlet team nor have I any connection with Sainsburys/Homebase. I am however concerned that there exists a small clique who are trying their hardest to block the Homebase proposal so as to force Dulwich Hamlet to close down thereby removing what they consider to be an unsuitable enterprise from the area. I have no experience of their matches but my neighbour has a son who watches them on a regular basis and my neighbour cannot praise the attitude of and efforts made by the Dulwich Hamlet club highly enough.
R Marsh
Dulwich, UK -

If S Wallace or anyone else would like to join the unpaid volunteers who do their very best to clear the car park of the effects of fly tipping and the like I am sure they will be very welcome. If the Homebase proposal is rejected the site would soon deteriorate to the condition of Plough Lane. Furthermore the death of Dulwich Hamlet (and don't let anyone think anything other than its death would happen) would mean hundreds of local people would be denied access to football at a price they can afford and where a genuine family atmosphere exists.
b Azzi <billazzi@yahoo.co.uk>
UK -

In response to S Walace comments regarding the carpark, I can only assume that he has been walking around with his hands over his eyes for some time. With constant vandalism to the fence surrounding Greendales, some of which has been caused by dogwalkers and persons looking for a short cut to Sainsbury's, and the easy access to Dulwich's carpark the area has become a mecca for for joyriders and their ilk. As regards dumped cars and flytipping Dulwich Hamlet FC is responsible for the cost of removing and cleaning up said mess, money that a community club can ill afford to waste. The flytipping was in the main removed by VOLUNTEER supporters. If this development were not to be approved then quite simply Dulwich Hamlet FC WILL die. Surprising whne you consider how hard some fight to preserve LOCAL businesses that they should be responsible for the death of one. Prehaps S Wallace might care to take a trip to Wimbledon and have a look at Plough Lane. Then he might wonder what will be on the site of Champion Hill Stadium in 10 years time?
Paul Griffin <p.griffin@calco.co.uk>
London, UK -

Has there been a discernable worsening of this car park ? To my mind it has always been in a poor condition with the main ciriticism being the lack of lighting at night especially on the stairwell leading from it to Sainsburys, which would be either the responsibility of Dulwich Hamlet who might well argue it isn't supposed to be for public use and justifiably that they cannot afford to maintain it or Sainsburys who might also argue it is not for public use but who would have little argument on the financial front. If the car park is used for fly tipping in the middle of the night I hardly think it fair to blame Sainsburys/Dulwich/homebase or anyone other than the fly tippers themselves and as for the recent rubbish generated by the gypsie encampment, as the police and the Council semed powerless to do anything about it, blaming the football team for it is somewhat incredulous.
A Stacey
Peckham, UK -

Is it just a coincidence that since the prospect of homebase raised its head the football car park has become a useful dumping area which is very rarely cleaned up? Or could it be it is a ploy to make people think that a nice tidy superstore would not be such a bad thing?
s wallace
east dulwich, UK -

I have just discovered this site though Living South! Well done whoever put it together. Is there something somewhere which tells us who you are and how you came to develop the site, and how you compile your information?
e.conn
south Peckham , UK -

As the halftime approached, Spurs tendency to over-elaborate, gave Hamlet greater momentum as they sensed a chance for an upset. With Peter Garland at the helm, HMS Dulwich Hamlet indulged in some gunboat diplomacy, launching a number of broadsides at Kelly’s net. After Fowler had just come with a whisker of stealing in between Fox and his keeper as the two dithered, only great keeping preserving parity. Dulwich were awarded a freekick 40 yards out. Pottering back to his line, Kelly just realised in time that a Garland bullet was buzzing towards the top corner of the net. Somehow he stretched his fingertips out, getting the merest of touches to divert the effort against the woodwork from whence it was hurriedly cleared into touch. Moments later and it was Cleevely’s turn to excel, turning a close range header from substitute Gary Doherty on to the post when he seemed to be heading in the wrong direction
dhfc.net
UK -

It would be a tragedy if the Homebase development were not to be approved, so forcing the closure of Dulwich Hamlet Football Club. Dulwich Hamlet is a vital part of the community, supported and enjoyed by many more people than its detractors like to admit to. To force its demise is a high price to pay so as to save a piece of waste land/ put one over on Sainsburys.
Bill Azzi <Billazzi@yahoo.co.uk>
UK -

This year we celebrate the centenary of the birth of the legendary Edgar Kail. Edgar Kail grew up in and around the Lordship Lane area and weas a pupil of Goodrich Road School. He also lived in Goose Green for the first few years of his marriage. As he was such a celebrated sportsman of a byegone era (between the wars) and a newspaper columnist after his sports career we wondered if you will be organising a special event to celebrate the occasion!
jackmcinroy
UK -

Can I direct you to an Egyptian websitehttp://www.angelfire.com/ak/EgyptianSports/hHegazi.htmlHussein Hegazi was a great Egyptian footballer who played for Dulwich Hamlet Football Club before the first world war. This makes him one of the earliestforeign players in England, and particularly in the East Dulwich area. It is good to know that this fine district was doing so much so long ago for the ethnic community.The club continues tin its community relations even today and long may that continue.
jackmcinroy
London, UK -

On a site that purports to be a represnetation of the history of this area, why no mention of one's its greatest assets. I speak of course of Dulwich Hamlet football club. Many are the long hopurs spent after games chatting with the older supporters who recall the days when the trams up Dog Kennel Hill were packed to overflowing as thousands clamoured to watch the most famous amateur club in thew country. The likes of Edgar Kail, after whom the approach to the ground is named, mesmerised old and young alike with their skills. This even led to full England caps, and but for the intransigence of the FA, might well have seen Edgar represent his country in the very first World Cup. Over a 100 years of glorious history will be buried if the Hamlet is killed off and what will be the final outcome? Stroll along to Wimbledon's Plough Lane for a taster. In addition Greendale will remain a wasteland fit only for the dumping of stolen cars, a cut through for vandals and thieves, and somewhere for addicts to discard their soiled needles. And when the Hamlet is finally gone what will King's College put its place. Probably exactly what is planned now but without the benefits that would come to the community of East Dulwich. Homebase might not be the perfect solution but unless the entire community works to ensure the best for the area then the eventual results could be unthinkable.
Paul Griffin <p.griffin@calco.co.uk>
Old Kent Road, UK -

I do not think you should baldly state that East Dulwich opposes Sainsbury's plans for Dog Kennell Hill. There is far more to it than that, as John Beasley knows full well, but seems not to care a damn. His reactionary attitude will mean the death of Dulwich Hamlet Football Club. Hamlet have been around for more than 100 years and deserve more consideration than this. Community organisations such as Hamlet are very important and should be nurtured by us, not destroyed. Mr Beasley would like everyonje tpo think that no one wants to save Hamlet. This is total rubbish. If Hamlet are wiped out then Mr Beasley should know that many many people in Dulwich will hold him total contempt and will never forgive him. Homebase will make no difference whatever to ouyr community. Lordship Lane was battered years ago when Mr Beasley's Labour friends on Southwark Council allowed the superstore to go ahead. In fact, the Lane and North Cross Road are now recovering and many new cafes and shops have opened and are succeeding. Dulwich Hamlet FC are equally as important as Mr Beasley and the Peckham Society. For a start they are in Dulwich (which is not Peckham, by the way) and their passing would make many people unhappy. This is not a price worth paying for kneejerk ersatz conservation which is years too late. Don't be so damned selfish, save Hamlet.
david hardy <david.hardy7@virgin.net>
east dulwich, London UK -

What a great site and I hope the same will be done for Camberwell.
Patrick <junket@breathemail.net>
Camberwell, London UK -

Dear lordshiplane.co.uk,
Perhaps I may add some more VERY significent happenings concerning my Peckham in the 1930's!
My first school was Bellenden Road and the highlight was the trip to Dulwich baths for a lesson. The swings on Goose Green were used often for we had no fear of marauding interferance so common in this day and age. Not having T.V.,telephone and electric light..(my Father worked at the gas co., Old Kent Road) we had to make our own enjoyment. Whips and Tops were the order of the day . Choumert Road was our shopping 'Mall' and every Saturday evening I would go with my Mum & Dad to get the week end joint......the bigger the joint, the cheaper the price (by lbs.). We would finish with pease pudding and saveloys .
By the dog pond ( just opposite the White Horse) there would be many stalls set out and we always bought something because they gave away packets of peppermints!!! Often there would be a hurdy gurdy with beautiful women dancing and cavorting..very cleverly in long dresses. I used to watch them in awe telling myself I would be 'one of them someday'......It wasn't until I was a little older that I discovered they wre men!!!! However, they were still very good!
Sunday early evening we had to listen for the crumpet man who would walk the streets with a huge bboard on his head wringing a bell, they were about 6 for a penny! Of course Rye Lane was our main thoroughfare with Holdrens and Jones & Higgins.
War came and my five brothers were scattered around the world. We had an Anderson shelter in our back garden. It was sunk in the ground about four feet, we climbed in a little entry where we had two bunk beds. I was very very frightened....not of the bombs but of the spiders! Then we grew marigolds on top !Dulwich Park was very large and only for people with lots of money because it had the horse paths!!!! in consequence Peckham Park was our playing ground. The band used to play every Sunday evening and we would walk around (in our best clothes) and admire the fish pond , the dove cote and of course the pond.
I really must stop now for I do not want to wear my welcome out but I could go on for ever remembering my childhood for it was so happy.
I shall be in Forest Hill July20th for two weeks and will surely retrace my footsteps. Thank you for listening and bringing my Peckham closer.
Sincerely, Joan Horton
If you Do print my letter, perhaps there would be someone who can relate to my memories. Feel free to pass on my E.mail addressMIJORUS@aol.com. Thank you

Congratulations to the LaneWeb team! This is the sort of site local people everywhere need. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to lordshiplane growing.
Alison James <alisonjames@virgin.net>
London, UK -